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Hi Lianhua,

DMA test can be used to characterize some properties, such as storage modulus and loss modulus, as a function of temperature. In many polymeric materials, storage modulus is observed to decrease as the temperature increases even higher than the glass transition. However, it's not true for all polymers. I believe this is due to the contribution of intermolecular resistance, which should play a minor role when the temperature is much higher than the glass transition.
But I did observe some rubber increases the storage modulus as the temperature increases in my own DMA tests. Just for your reference.

Lifeng

Tue, 21 Dec 2010 02:12:55 +0000 Lifeng Wang comment 15957 at //m.limpotrade.com
感谢肖和Feihu. //m.limpotrade.com/comment/15911#comment-15911

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Thanks to Xiao and Feihu.

In the classical polymer theory, the elasticity of the rubber network is
mainly induced by entropic elasticity of the chains.

Only in entropic elasticity, the shear modulus increases with temperature.

Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:26:55 +0000 Lianhua Ma comment 15911 at //m.limpotrade.com
Hi, Lianhua, I don't //m.limpotrade.com/comment/15907#comment-15907

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Hi, Lianhua,

I don't think there is anything wrong with this formula. Because at higher temp, entropy change per incresed length is greater, thus the modulus is larger. I am not an experimentalist, but I believe the stiffening of rubber is observed by Gough 150 years ago.

Regards.

Xiao

太阳,2010年12月12日03:28:18 + 0000 xiao_wang comment 15907 at //m.limpotrade.com
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Yep, I can not agree with you any more! The formula G=Nkt is suitable for calculating the shear modulus of entropic elasticity, not the enthalpic elasticity.

Sat, 11 Dec 2010 20:09:48 +0000 Feihu Zhao comment 15905 at //m.limpotrade.com
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For the polymers in reality, I think the contribution of internal energy to the shear modulus should be considered when we increase temperatures.

The expression G=NkT is only applicable for the entropic elasticity, whereas the enthalpy variation is eliminated.

Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:40:09 +0000 Lianhua Ma comment 15891 at //m.limpotrade.com